tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16239458.post4274016605602415972..comments2023-10-01T09:11:08.273-04:00Comments on A Noggin' Full Of Noodles: How In The World Could People Think This About Christians?Justinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02270978399045357206noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16239458.post-81003195242874191812007-10-10T02:54:00.000-04:002007-10-10T02:54:00.000-04:00I'll read JD's/watch the vid. tomorrow. Trace Kep...I'll read JD's/watch the vid. tomorrow. Trace Kept me up playing Halo:)<BR/><BR/>I'll give you the "taking the opinion poll/conformation of self" bit. Since I haven't read the book, i can't even begin to speak to that. I do know that the Barna group is all about census on churches/Christianity for the benefit of Church growth/health. They've done some really good Church resourcing and statistics in the past that I've used! You may be right on the approach they take. I can't dispute that possibility (probability?)<BR/><BR/>As for the benefit, that's where I'm interested in reading all the contributor's opinions. I'm sure that Colson would have something very different to say from someone like McLaren. (although I think both views are valid).<BR/><BR/>But I will say what interested me was that ONLY 40% of the poll taken was from those outside the Church. Even as pessimistic as I can get, i NEVER would have guessed that so many churchgoers would list the perceptions listed. So either the answers stem from gross overprotection, or people in the real world are dealing with being stereotyped when labeled as a Christian. Like I said, I've been having that conversation with friends since High school. My personal poll (a poll of those outside the church that I have relationships with)would look like this:<BR/><BR/>1)hypocrisy<BR/>2)rigidity<BR/>3)intolerance<BR/>4)judgmental (altho that could be argued as part of 3, but to many tolerance is more about acceptance, this is more about placing judgment, be it social, personal, or eternal)<BR/><BR/>But i do see your logic. Why the need to poll yourself? I'm interested in that. How do they split that up realistically? what does this mean to them? to the contributors? to the Church? to me?<BR/><BR/>so, I may find a day and go sit and read through it (or a couple of days)...it's pricey. <BR/><BR/>However, I still stand behind the fact that it's sad that there are people out there that have these perceptions of Christians. It is wrong to be steriotyped (pot calling kettle black when it comes to Christians?), and not all Christians are like that. As always, a few can spoil it for the rest. But power and prestige/platform have given those few the chance to speak, and they usually speak as if THEIR version of Christian understanding is the ONLY version. I think I recently wrote a post on that?:)<BR/><BR/>thanks for the link and the comment jeff!! way to keep me honest:) I def. am interested in checking the book out. in the meantime, check out the link to their "conversation" on the "addendum" post. It's really neat!<BR/>peace bro!Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270978399045357206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16239458.post-90292935331925029042007-10-09T22:31:00.000-04:002007-10-09T22:31:00.000-04:00here's one for yahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G...here's one for ya<BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GC5fOMXyy8<BR/><BR/>from Jd Greear's blog <BR/>http://www.jdgreear.com/Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04837606270122810790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16239458.post-386102682649434732007-10-09T21:00:00.000-04:002007-10-09T21:00:00.000-04:00I'll be the fly in the ointment on this one...This...I'll be the fly in the ointment on this one...<BR/><BR/>This sounds a little bit like taking an opinion poll and then conforming yourself to whatever the opinion poll says. I just don't see the logic or benefit to that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12101780071283828782noreply@blogger.com